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23-1683•Robert B. Goss v. Denis McDonough, Secretary of Veterans Affairs
23-1683Court of Appeals for the Federal CircuitDec 9, 2024
United States Court of Appeals
for the Federal Circuit
______________________
ROBERT B. GOSS,
Claimant-Appellant
v.
DENIS MCDONOUGH, SECRETARY OF
VETERANS AFFAIRS,
Respondent-Appellee
______________________
2023-1683
______________________
Appeal from the United States Court of Appeals for
Veterans Claims in No. 21-442, Judge Joseph L. Falvey, Jr.
______________________
Decided: December 9, 2024
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K ENNETH M. CARPENTER , Law Offices of Carpenter
Chartered, Topeka, KS, argued for claimant-appellant.
P ATRICK ANGULO, Commercial Litigation Branch, Civil
Division, United States Department of Justice, Washing-
ton, DC, argued for respondent-appellee. Also represented
by BRIAN M. BOYNTON , P ATRICIA M. MCCARTHY ; J ONATHAN
K RISCH , CHRISTA A. SHRIBER, Office of General Counsel,
United States Department of Veterans Affairs, Washing-
ton, DC.
______________________
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GOSS v. MCDONOUGH 2
Before M OORE, Chief Judge, STOLL and CUNNINGHAM ,
Circuit Judges.
MOORE, Chief Judge.
Attorney Robert Goss appeals a decision from the
United States Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims (Vet-
erans Court) dismissing his appeal for lack of jurisdiction.
For the following reasons, we reverse and remand.
BACKGROUND
In July 2009, veteran John H. Casey filed a Notice of
Disagreement (NOD) with the United States Department
of Veterans Affairs (VA) challenging denial of service con-
nection for disabilities. In June 2010, Mr. Goss entered
into a contingent fee agreement with Mr. Casey, under
which Mr. Goss would represent Mr. Casey in his pursuit
of benefits from the VA and receive twenty percent of any
past-due benefits awarded, to be withheld by the VA and
paid directly to Mr. Goss. On June 23, 2010, Mr. Goss filed
with the VA Form 21-22a, Appointment of Individual as
Claimant’s Representative, and the executed fee agree-
ment. On June 28, 2010, the VA notified Mr. Casey that
Mr. Goss had been appointed as his representative. In a
letter dated January 26, 2011, Mr. Casey informed
Mr. Goss he had terminated their attorney-client relation-
ship. Mr. Goss withdrew as Mr. Casey’s representative on
February 3, 2011.
On September 20, 2011, the VA Regional Office (RO)
granted past-due benefits to Mr. Casey based on his July
2009 NOD. On September 30, 2011, the RO found Mr. Goss
and Mr. Casey had entered into a valid fee agreement and
Mr. Goss was eligible for direct payment of fees by the VA
pursuant to 38 C.F.R. § 14.636. On October 5, 2011,
Mr. Casey submitted an NOD, titled “Attorney Fees: Not
Authorized,” challenging the payment of fees to Mr. Goss.
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J.A. 212.1 Mr. Casey argued Mr. Goss “never met with
[him] to discuss [his] case,” and “never performed any work
for [him] on [his] case.” Id. Notwithstanding Mr. Casey’s
appeal, the VA released to Mr. Goss twenty percent of the
past-due benefits awarded in September 2011 and twenty
percent of additional past-due benefits awarded in Febru-
ary 2012. The fees remitted to Mr. Goss totaled $18,523.
In response to Mr. Casey’s October 2011 NOD, the VA is-
sued a Statement of the Case (SOC) denying Mr. Casey’s
challenge to payment of Mr. Goss. Mr. Casey appealed to
the Board of Veterans Appeals (Board).
The Board remanded Mr. Casey’s claim to the RO three
times: in January 2016, June 2017, and May 2018.
J.A. 135–43 (2016 remand decision); J.A. 100–08 (2017 re-
mand decision); J.A. 60–71 (2018 remand decision). The
Board recognized Mr. Casey’s NOD as contending “the pay-
ment of these fees was not warranted as the Veteran had
terminated the services of [Mr. Goss] prior to any benefits
being awarded.” J.A. 137. The Board thus interpreted
Mr. Casey’s NOD as a challenge to the reasonableness of
Mr. Goss’ fee. Three separate times, the Board remanded
Mr. Casey’s claim and instructed the RO to “[r]equest
[Mr. Goss] to provide an itemized account for reasonable
attorney fees and expenses.” J.A. 142; see also J.A. 106;
J.A. 70. The Board also directed the RO to “readjudicate
the claim addressing . . . the amount of [Mr. Goss’] reason-
able attorney fees and expenses which represents his con-
tribution to, and responsibility for, the benefits awarded.”
J.A. 142; see also J.A. 107; J.A. 70. The Board repeatedly
explained that “an attorney terminated prior to an award
of benefits is only entitled to a fee that fairly and accurately
reflects his/her contribution to [the] award of benefits even
though the parties has signed a contingency fee
1 “J.A.” refers to the Joint Appendix filed by
Mr. Goss at ECF No. 15.
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agreement.” J.A. 141. Each time, on remand, Mr. Goss
was requested by the RO to provide such an itemized ac-
count so that a reasonableness determination could be
made. Each time, Mr. Goss refused to provide the re-
quested proof of his work. With no further explanation, the
RO repeatedly denied Mr. Casey’s claim that the fee award
was unreasonable without full reasons and bases as in-
structed by the Board. At no point did the VA, the RO, or
the Board suggest that Mr. Casey’s claim, which remains
unadjudicated to this day, failed to satisfy any particular
filing requirements.
On November 3, 2020, the Board issued a decision find-
ing Mr. Casey and Mr. Goss entered into a valid fee agree-
ment, but the twenty percent fee was unreasonable.
J.A. 28–41. The Board recounted its three previous re-
mands, in which it gave “express directives” that the RO
request from Mr. Goss an account of services rendered and
provide an analysis “as to what fee fairly and accurately
reflects [Mr. Goss’] contribution to and responsibility for
the benefits awarded.” Id. at 37. “A review of the record
reveal[ed] that, in August 2016, August 2017, and July
2020, [t]he [RO] did send requests to [Mr. Goss] and his at-
torney to provide an itemized account for reasonable attor-
ney fees and expenses which represented his contribution
to, and responsibility for, the benefits awarded to [Mr. Ca-
sey] in the September 2011 and February 2012 rating de-
cisions.” Id. at 36–37. Having not received such an
accounting three times, the Board determined “any addi-
tional remands to obtain this information from [Mr. Goss]
would be futile.” Id. at 37. The Board repeated for a fourth
time that the VA was required, consistent with its three
prior “express directives” “to make a specific determina-
tion, in consideration of the factors outlined in Scates, as to
what fee fairly and accurately reflects [Mr. Goss’] contribu-
tion to and responsibility for the benefits awarded.” Id.; see
id. at 36 (citing Scates v. Principi, 282 F.3d 1362, 1368–69
(Fed. Cir. 2002)). The Board explained again, “in a case
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such as this, where an attorney is discharged prior to reso-
lution of the claim, the attorney is entitled to ‘only a fee
that fairly and accurately reflects his contribution to and
responsibility for the benefits awarded.’” Id. at 38 (cita-
tions omitted) (quoting Scates, 282 F.3d at 1366). The
Board further pointed out that the fee agreement entered
into by Mr. Casey and Mr. Goss permitted only a reasona-
ble fee to be awarded in the event the attorney was dis-
charged prior to the award of benefits:
[T]he fee agreement itself contains a clause specif-
ically designed to address the situation here. In-
deed, section 9 reads as follows: “DISCHARGE.
Client may discharge Attorney at any time by send-
ing a written notice to Attorney. If Attorney of
Firm is discharged by client after Attorney or Firm
performs, substantially performs, or contributes
substantially to the results finally obtained by cli-
ent, then client shall be liable to Attorney for pay-
ment of reasonable attorney’s fees and all expenses
and costs paid by Firm.”
Id. at 39 (emphasis added by Board).
The Board then found a twenty percent fee was unrea-
sonable because the NOD that resulted in past-due bene-
fits was filed by Mr. Casey before he appointed Mr. Goss as
his representative, and “during his time as representative,
[Mr. Goss] did not assist with any appellate filings, and the
only communication with VA consisted of submission of the
Power of Attorney . . . and fee agreement, a request for a
copy of the Veteran’s claims file, and his withdrawal of rep-
resentation.” Id. at 39–41. The Board explained that the
fee “is unreasonable, given the negligible amount of work
performed by [Mr. Goss], pursuant to Scates, and the re-
fusal to provide an accounting of work performed on behalf
of the Veteran.” Id. at 41. Mr. Goss appealed to the Veter-
ans Court.
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Mr. Goss argued the Board lacked jurisdiction over the
reasonableness of the fee award. The VA initially opposed
Mr. Goss’ argument, contending the Board had jurisdiction
under the facts of this case, and asked the Veterans Court
to affirm. J.A. 2. On August 23, 2022, after Mr. Goss’ re-
ply, the VA changed its position. The VA claimed that, af-
ter more than a decade of back-and-forth appeals and
remands between the Board and the RO, the VA’s position
had become that the VA Office of General Counsel, not the
Board, has authority to consider reasonableness in the first
instance. J.A. 257–58. The VA argued that the Board
lacked jurisdiction to decide the reasonableness question in
the first instance and the Board’s decision addressing rea-
sonableness should therefore be vacated. Id. While
Mr. Goss agreed that the Board lacked jurisdiction to de-
cide the reasonableness in the first instance, Mr. Goss op-
posed vacatur on the ground that the Veterans Court only
has the authority to affirm, modify, reverse or remand.
J.A. 260–61. Mr. Goss sought final resolution in his favor
of Mr. Casey’s attorney fee appeal.
Rather than decide the legal question of jurisdiction,
the Veterans Court accepted the parties’ agreement on the
issue. J.A. 1 (“[W]e accept the Secretary’s concession that
the Board lacked jurisdiction to address the reasonable-
ness of the amount of fees awarded to Mr. Goss . . . .”);
J.A. 3 (“Seeing no reason to reject the parties’ agreement
on the issue, the Court accepts the Secretary’s concession
that the Board exceeded its jurisdiction . . . .”). The Veter-
ans Court then vacated the portion of the Board’s decision
addressing reasonableness of the fee award and dismissed
the appeal for lack of jurisdiction. Mr. Goss appeals. We
have jurisdiction under 38 U.S.C. § 7292.
D ISCUSSION
Mr. Goss argues we should review the Veterans Court’s
decision concerning his fee award because there remains
uncertainty around his entitlement to keep the fee. The
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VA argues this case is moot because Mr. Casey has not con-
tinued to pursue his unreasonableness challenge (fourteen
years after Mr. Casey’s originally-filed challenge to the fee
payment).2 Mr. Casey’s claim has been dismissed without
resolution, and the VA conceded that Mr. Casey can bring
a future challenge. See, e.g., Oral Arg. at 27:13–20; Bd. of
Trustees of Univ. of Illinois v. Organon Teknika Corp. LLC,
614 F.3d 372, 374–75 (7th Cir. 2010) (finding appellate ju-
risdiction when appellant challenged a suit “dismissed
without resolution” because the appellant wanted “an or-
der dismissing the University’s claim with prejudice, so
that the controversy about the royalty rate would be over”).
Because Mr. Casey’s challenge to Mr. Goss’ fee eligibility
remains unadjudicated, this claim is not moot.
We have jurisdiction to review “the validity of a deci-
sion of the [Veterans] Court on a rule of law or of any stat-
ute or regulation . . . or any interpretation thereof (other
than a determination as to a factual matter) that was relied
on by the [Veterans] Court in making the decision.”
38 U.S.C. § 7292(a). Whether the Veterans Court lacks ju-
risdiction is an issue of statutory construction, see
2 The tortured history of this case does not reflect
well on the VA generally. The Board found Mr. Casey ap-
pealed reasonableness, J.A. 137, and remanded three sep-
arate times expressly directing the VA to adjudicate this
pending claim by the Veteran, J.A. 135–43 (2016 remand
decision); J.A. 100–08 (2017 remand decision); J.A. 60–71
(2018 remand decision). Three times the VA simply denied
the claim after Mr. Goss refused to provide the necessary
information. Finally, after deciding it was futile to send
Mr. Casey’s challenge back to the VA for a fourth time, the
Board proceeded to review the merits of the Secretary’s de-
nial of Mr. Casey’s challenge. J.A. 37–41. We share the
Board’s frustration and applaud its repeated attempts to
seek a resolution of the Veteran’s appeal.
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38 U.S.C. § 7252, which we review de novo. Howard v. Go-
ber, 220 F.3d 1341, 1343 (Fed. Cir. 2000).
This appeal presents, among other issues, whether the
Board exceeded its jurisdiction by addressing the reasona-
bleness of the amount of fees awarded to Mr. Goss. Both
parties argue that the Board lacked jurisdiction to assess
reasonableness in the first instance. Courts, however, are
not bound by stipulations on questions of law. Sanford’s
Estate v. Comm’r, 308 U.S. 39, 51 (1939) (“We are not
bound to accept, as controlling, stipulations as to questions
of law.”) (citations omitted); Technicon Instruments Corp.
v. Alpkem Corp., 866 F.2d 417, 421–22 (Fed. Cir. 1989) (“If
the stipulation is to be treated as an agreement concerning
the legal effect of admitted facts, it is obviously inoperative;
since the court cannot be controlled by agreement of coun-
sel on a subsidiary question of law.” (quoting Swift & Co.
v. Hocking Valley Ry. Co., 243 U.S. 281, 289 (1917))).
The Secretary of Veterans Affairs may, “upon the Sec-
retary’s own motion or at the request of the claimant, re-
view a fee agreement . . . and . . . order a reduction in the
fee called for in the agreement if the Secretary finds that
the fee is excessive or unreasonable.” 38 U.S.C.
§ 5904(c)(3)(A). A decision by the Secretary on reasonable-
ness is appealable to the Board. 38 U.S.C. § 5904(c)(3)(B).
There is thus no question the Board can review a determi-
nation of reasonableness. But the question before this
court is whether the Board can review the merits of a rea-
sonableness challenge after the VA has three times denied
the Veteran’s claim and refused the Board’s express di-
rective to provide full reasons and bases.
VA regulations specify requirements for fee agree-
ments and payment of fees. See 38 C.F.R. § 14.636. The
regulations give authority to the agency of original juris-
diction (AOJ) to “determine whether an agent or attorney
is eligible for fees.” 38 C.F.R. § 14.636(c)(4). Importantly,
VA regulations require that “[f]ees permitted for services
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of an agent or attorney admitted to practice before VA must
be reasonable.”3 38 C.F.R. § 14.636(e). This regulation,
therefore, requires that fees be determined to be reasona-
ble in order to be awarded to an attorney.
The Secretary detailed exactly how this reasonableness
determination should take place. Where an attorney pro-
vides representation through the date of awarded benefits,
a fee that does not exceed twenty percent of past due bene-
fits is presumed reasonable. 38 C.F.R. § 14.636(f)(1). This
presumption can be rebutted by clear and convincing evi-
dence that a fee is unreasonable. Id. Thus, in most cases,
where the attorney continues representation through the
award of benefits, the regulation provides a presumption of
reasonableness. If this presumption is challenged by the
Veteran, review is to be conducted by the VA Office of Gen-
eral Counsel. 38 C.F.R. § 14.636(i) (“The Office of the Gen-
eral Counsel may order a reduction in the fee called for in
the agreement if it finds . . . that the fee is unreasonable.”).
In the unusual situation where an attorney is dis-
charged or withdraws from representation before benefits
are awarded, a reasonable fee is “one that fairly and accu-
rately reflects his or her contribution to and responsibility
for the benefits awarded. The amount of the fee is informed
3 38 U.S.C. § 5904(c)(4) likewise allows only reason-
able fees in cases arising under certain circumstances. The
Secretary agreed at oral argument that, to be awarded, fees
must be reasonable. Oral Arg. at 39:00–39:22. In a
Rule 28(j) letter submitted to the court after oral argu-
ment, the Secretary pointed out that § 5904(c)(4) is not ap-
plicable in this case. ECF No. 35. To the extent that the
Secretary is now suggesting for the first time that attorney
fees may be awarded even if they are excessive or unrea-
sonable, this argument is inconsistent with statute, the
Secretary’s own regulations, and our binding precedent.
Scates, 282 F.3d at 1365–66.
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by an examination of the factors in paragraph (e) of this
section.” 38 C.F.R. § 14.636(f)(2). The regulation lays out
in paragraph (e) eight “[f]actors considered in determining
whether fees are reasonable,” which include “[t]he extent
and type of services the representative performed,” and
“[t]he amount of time the representative spent on the case.”
38 C.F.R. § 14.636(e). By the clear language of the regula-
tion, no presumption of reasonableness applies in a case
where an attorney withdraws or is discharged before an
award of benefits. Thus, a fact finding must be made by
the Secretary regarding the reasonableness of the fee
award – such a fact finding must consider, as the regula-
tion requires, the factors detailed in 38 C.F.R. § 14.636(e).
Our decision in Scates requires the same: “In sum, an at-
torney with a contingent fee contract for payment of twenty
percent of accrued veterans benefits awarded, discharged
by the client before the case is completed, is not automati-
cally entitled to the full twenty percent fee. He may receive
only a fee that fairly and accurately reflects his contribu-
tion to and responsibility for the benefits awarded.” Scates,
282 F.3d at 1366.4
Finally, as acknowledged by the Board, even the fee
agreement between Mr. Casey and Mr. Goss in this case
contains the same requirement that only a reasonable at-
torney fee may be remitted when the attorney is discharged
prior to the receipt of benefits. J.A. 39. Section 9, titled
“DISCHARGE,” states: “If Attorney of [sic] Firm is dis-
charged by client after Attorney or Firm performs, substan-
tially performs, or contributes substantially to the results
finally obtained by client, then client shall be liable to
4 We note that the Scates decision was cited by the
Board in each of its four decisions and in the briefing before
this court. J.A. 141–42 (2016 Board decision); J.A. 107
(2017 Board decision); J.A. 68–70 (2018 Board decision);
J.A. 32–41 (2020 Board decision); Appellee’s Resp. Br. 3–4.
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Attorney for payment of reasonable attorney’s fees and all
expenses and costs paid by Firm.” J.A. 239–40 (emphasis
added). Mr. Goss was thus entitled to only a reasonable fee
by VA regulation, Federal Circuit precedent, and the terms
of the fee agreement.
Mr. Goss, quite fairly, desires certainty and resolution
of this now fourteen-year-old dispute over his entitlement
to the attorney fee award. Here, where the presumption of
reasonableness does not apply, there needed to be a deter-
mination of reasonableness. The statute bestows upon the
Secretary, not the Board, the authority to determine the
reasonableness of the fee in the first instance. 38 U.S.C.
§ 5904(c)(3)(A). The Board acknowledged that compliance
by the RO—the AOJ in this case—with its directive to
make a reasonableness determination “with full reasons
and bases” was frustrated by Mr. Goss’ refusal to provide
an account of the work performed on Mr. Casey’s case.
J.A. 37. The Board concluded that the AOJ nonetheless is-
sued multiple Supplemental SOCs and “[o]n each occasion,
the AOJ has continued to deny the claim.” Id. at 30. While
these decisions lack the reasons and bases repeatedly re-
quested by the Board, the parties do not dispute that they
amount to a denial of Mr. Casey’s claim regarding attorney
fees. By statute, if the Secretary denies a challenge to the
reasonableness of an attorney fee award, such a decision is
appealable to the Board. Under these circumstances, the
Board had jurisdiction to review the Secretary’s denial of
Mr. Casey’s claim that the fee award was unreasonable.
The VA’s payment to Mr. Goss “permitted” the fee,
which “must be reasonable.” 38 C.F.R. § 14.636(e). Indeed,
the VA cited 38 C.F.R. § 14.636 in both its decisions award-
ing fees to Mr. Goss. J.A. 217–18; J.A. 268–70. We do not
agree with the Veterans Court’s legal determination (pred-
icated entirely on the concession by the Secretary) that the
Board exceeded its jurisdiction in its November 2020 deci-
sion by reviewing the Secretary’s reasonableness determi-
nation. See 38 U.S.C. § 5904(c)(3)(B).
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We therefore reverse the Veterans Court’s determina-
tion that it lacked jurisdiction over the Board’s decision
and remand. The Board did not exceed its jurisdiction.
CONCLUSION
We have considered the parties’ remaining arguments
and find them unpersuasive. We reverse the Veterans
Court’s decision vacating the portion of the Board’s deci-
sion addressing reasonableness of the fee award and rein-
state the Board’s decision addressing reasonableness. We
remand this case to the Veterans Court for any further pro-
ceedings.
REVERSED AND REMANDED
COSTS
No costs.
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