Jane Doe and John Doe 1 v. John Doe

IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF THE STATE OF IDAHO

Docket No. 51491

In the Matter of: John Doe II, A Child )
Under Eighteen (18) Years of Age. )
JANE DOE and JOHN DOE I, )
) Filed: August 26, 2024
Petitioners-Respondents, )
) Melanie Gagnepain, Clerk
v. )
)
JOHN DOE (2024-01), )
)
Respondent-Appellant. )
)

Appeal from the Magistrate Division of the District Court of the Third Judicial
District, State of Idaho, Canyon County. Hon. Courtnie R. Tucker, Magistrate.

Judgment terminating parental rights, affirmed.

Aaron Bazzoli, Canyon County Chief Public Defender; Cassandra C. Wright,
Deputy Public Defender, Caldwell, for appellant.

Lackey Law Group; Quentin W. Lackey, Nampa, for respondents.
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GRATTON, Chief Judge
John Doe (2024-01) (Doe) appeals from the judgment terminating his parental rights. We
affirm.
I.
FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
Doe and Jane Doe (Mother) are the biological parents of John Doe II (Child). Doe and
Mother had Child in 2013 but were never married. Mother and Doe ended their relationship in
2016, and Doe moved from Caldwell to Idaho Falls to live with his mother. Mother began a
relationship with John Doe I (Stepfather). Mother and Doe did not obtain a formal custody,
visitation, and support order and, instead, used an informal arrangement.
In February 2022, Mother and Stepfather filed a petition for termination and adoption.
The petition sought termination of Doe’s parental rights on the basis of abandonment and neglect.

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The magistrate court found that Doe had neglected Child by not maintaining a normal parent-child
relationship and regular contact with Child, failing to engage in medical or educational care, and
failing to provide financial support. The magistrate court also found it was in Child’s best interests
for Doe’s parental rights to be terminated. In January 2024, an order terminating parental rights
was filed. Doe appeals.
II.
STANDARD OF REVIEW
On appeal from a decision terminating parental rights, this Court examines whether the
decision is supported by substantial and competent evidence, which means such evidence as a
reasonable mind might accept as adequate to support a conclusion. Doe v. Doe, 148 Idaho 243,
245-46, 220 P.3d 1062, 1064-65 (2009). The appellate court will indulge all reasonable inferences
in support of the trial court’s judgment when reviewing an order that parental rights be terminated.
Id. The Idaho Supreme Court has also said that the substantial evidence test requires a greater
quantum of evidence in cases where the trial court’s finding must be supported by clear and
convincing evidence than in cases where a mere preponderance is required. State v. Doe, 143
Idaho 343, 346, 144 P.3d 597, 600 (2006). Clear and convincing evidence is generally understood
to be evidence indicating that the thing to be proved is highly probable or reasonably certain. Roe
v. Doe, 143 Idaho 188, 191, 141 P.3d 1057, 1060 (2006). Further, the trial court’s decision must
be supported by objectively supportable grounds. Doe, 143 Idaho at 346, 144 P.3d at 600.
In Matter of Doe, 164 Idaho 511, 515 432 P.3d 60, 64 (2018), the Court stated:
In our review of the factual findings, “this Court will indulge all reasonable
inferences in support of the trial court’s judgment.” In re Doe (2013-15), 156 Idaho
at 106, 320 P.3d at 1265 (quoting In the Matter of Aragon, 120 Idaho 606, 608, 818
P.2d 310, 312 (1991)). This Court considers that the finder of fact has the
opportunity to observe witnesses’ demeanor, to assess their credibility, to detect
prejudice or motive and to judge the character of the parties. In parental-
termination cases, this is immensely important. A cold record of the trial does not
tell the whole story. An independent review by our court could not take into
account the trial court’s superior view of the entire situation.
There is no difference in the standards in reviewing a case based on a private termination
as opposed to public termination. Hofmeister v. Bauer, 110 Idaho 960, 963-64, 719 P.2d 1220,
1223-24 (Ct. App. 1986) (applying clear and convincing evidence standard in private termination
context and reasoning: “We see no reason why the parental interest should receive less protection
from the risk of fact-finding error in a ‘private’ termination case than in a ‘public’ case”). This

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standard protects the constitutional rights of parents because after termination, a former parent has
no standing to seek involvement in the child’s life. Santosky v. Kramer, 455 U.S. 745, 759 (1982).
III.
ANALYSIS
Doe challenges the sufficiency of the evidence supporting the magistrate court’s findings
that he neglected Child, and that termination of his parental rights is in Child’s best interests.
Mother responds that substantial and competent evidence supports the magistrate court’s
termination decision. We affirm the termination of Doe’s parental rights.
A parent has a fundamental liberty interest in maintaining a relationship with his or her
child. Troxel v. Granville, 530 U.S. 57, 65 (2000); Doe v. State, 137 Idaho 758, 760, 53 P.3d 341,
343 (2002). This interest is protected by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States
Constitution. State v. Doe, 144 Idaho 839, 842, 172 P.3d 1114, 1117 (2007). Implicit in the
Termination of Parent and Child Relationship Act is the philosophy that, wherever possible, family
life should be strengthened and preserved. I.C. § 16-2001(2). Therefore, the requisites of due
process must be met when terminating the parent-child relationship. State v. Doe, 143 Idaho 383,
386, 146 P.3d 649, 652 (2006). Due process requires that the grounds for terminating a
parent-child relationship be proved by clear and convincing evidence. Id. Because a fundamental
liberty interest is at stake, the United States Supreme Court has determined that a court may
terminate a parent-child relationship only if that decision is supported by clear and convincing
evidence. Santosky, 455 U.S. at 769; see also I.C. § 16-2009; Doe v. Dep’t of Health & Welfare,
146 Idaho 759, 761-62, 203 P.3d 689, 691-92 (2009); Doe, 143 Idaho at 386, 146 P.3d at 652.
Idaho Code § 16-2004(a) expressly provides that a parent may file a petition to terminate
the other parent’s parental rights. A private termination is an action initiated by an individual,
rather than a public agency in a dependency action. Hofmeister, 110 Idaho at 963-64, 719 P.2d at
1223-24. While the court’s decision to sever the parent’s legal relationship is a form of state action,
the party seeking and obtaining the termination of parental rights is not the state family regulatory
system. In such cases, there is no formal role for a state agency in the proceedings. Although a
court may order a public agency to do an assessment, the State is not the driving force of the
termination proceedings. As such, there is no statutory requirement of reasonable efforts by the
parties to reunify or repair the relationship, when the State is not involved. In re Bush, 113 Idaho
873, 877, 749 P.2d 492, 496 (1988) (holding the trial court was not required by statute to make a

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finding “as to whether the parents could or could not have been rehabilitated prior to a termination
of their parental rights” in an action brought by private parties).
The Idaho Supreme Court addressed a private termination in Doe v. Doe (2017-15), 162
Idaho 653, 402 P.3d 1106 (2017). In Doe, the mother and father divorced, Mother was awarded
sole custody of child and father was required to pay child support. Id. at 655, 402 P.3d at 1108.
Two years later, father filed a petition to modify custody, where the magistrate court allowed father
to have supervised visitation for up to one hour every two weeks and required him to pay $296 in
child support each month. Id. Three years later, mother and stepfather filed a petition to terminate
father’s parental rights based on abandonment and neglect, so the stepfather could adopt the child.
Id. at 656, 402 P.3d at 1109. At the time of trial, father had not made any appointments for
visitation with the child and had $15,000 in arrears of his child support. Id. The Court affirmed
the magistrate court’s termination of father’s parental rights based on neglect because father “had
several opportunities to play a role in Child’s life” but failed to provide any parental care necessary
for the child’s well-being by not participating in visitations and not paying child support. Id. at
660, 402 P.3d at 1113.
Idaho Code § 16-2005 permits a party to petition the court for termination of the
parent-child relationship when it is in the child’s best interests and any one of the following five
factors exist: (a) abandonment; (b) neglect or abuse; (c) lack of a biological relationship between
the child and a presumptive parent; (d) the parent is unable to discharge parental responsibilities
for a prolonged period that will be injurious to the health, morals, or well-being of the child; or
(e) the parent is incarcerated and will remain incarcerated for a substantial period of time. Each
statutory ground is an independent basis for termination. Doe, 144 Idaho at 842, 172 P.3d at 1117.
Idaho Code § 16-2002(3)(a) defines “neglect” as any conduct included in I.C. § 16-1602(31).
Idaho Code § 16-1602(31)(a) provides, in pertinent part, that a child is neglected when the child
is without proper parental care and control, or subsistence, medical or other care or control
necessary for his or her well-being because of the conduct or omission of his or her parents,
guardian, or other custodian or their neglect or refusal to provide them.
A. Neglect
1. Parental care
In the first section of his appellate brief, Doe contends that Child was provided proper care
and control, subsistence, medical care, and educational care as Child was adequately cared for by

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Mother and Stepfather. However, under well-settled law, a parent can neglect a child by failing to
provide proper parental care even if the child’s needs are being met by others. Interest of Doe I,
168 Idaho 74, 79, 479 P.3d 467, 472 (Ct. App. 2021); Thompson v. Thompson, 110 Idaho 93, 97,
714 P.2d 62, 66 (Ct. App. 1986). Doe attempts to distinguish Thompson on the ground that the
mother in that case did not become non-custodial because of separation or divorce and because the
child was not being raised by another parent, but by friends and relatives. However, the salient
point remains the same: “a parent is not relieved of his or her responsibilities to provide
appropriate parental care by informally relinquishing custody” to another. Thompson, 101 Idaho
at 97, 714 P.2d at 66. In Thompson, the Court further noted that the parent had not “made any
meaningful attempts to provide parental care necessary for the child’s health, moral and well-
being, she has simply relied upon the generosity of others.” Id. at 96, 714 P.2d at 65.
Doe also attempts to distinguish Interest of Doe I in which the mother contended that
because the child’s foster parents provided for the child’s needs, the finding of neglect was
negated. Interest of Doe I, 168 Idaho at 79, 479 P.3d at 472. Doe focuses on the statement by the
Court in that case that “the question is whether, due to the conduct or omission of Doe, the child
is without proper parental care and control, or subsistence, medical, or other care or control
necessary for the child’s well-being. I.C. § 16-1602(31)(a).” Interest of Doe I, 168 Idaho at 79,
479 P.3d at 472. Doe omits the next sentence, in which the Court held, “A parent can neglect a
child by failing to provide proper parental care even if the child’s needs are being met by others.”
Id. Doe argues that just because one parent is meeting a child’s needs does not necessarily mean
the other parent is neglecting the child. To the extent Doe is asserting that if a natural parent (as
opposed to friends, family, or foster parents) is meeting a child’s needs there can be no neglect by
the non-custodial parent under the terms of the statute, we reject that argument. Whether Doe
neglected Child is based on Doe’s actions or omissions.
2. Regular contact
Regarding regular contact, there was never a court-ordered or set visitation schedule
created between the parties. From 2017-2019, Child would visit Doe for a week each year in Idaho
Falls. However, in 2020 during COVID-19, the parties agreed not to exchange Child. In 2021,
there were plans to have Child visit Doe for Halloween, but Mother did not permit the visit due to
Child’s school schedule. Child was then set to visit Doe for the week of Thanksgiving, but Doe
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of her children. It was around this time that Stepfather took over communication with Doe to
alleviate Mother’s trauma with Doe. Doe did not have an in-person visitation with Child in 2022
or 2023. At the time of trial, Doe had not seen Child in approximately five years.
Doe complains that the magistrate court failed to recognize conflicting testimony as to the
number of visits prior to 2021 but provides no argument that the findings are not supported by the
record. Doe appears to combine in-person visits and phone visits. The magistrate court found that
Doe exercised phone visits which “ebbed and flowed between calling twice a month to once every
other month.” The magistrate court found that Mother did not prevent calls, but when another
activity was ongoing or it was bedtime, she did not take Doe’s call. In addition, the magistrate
court noted testimony that Child had to be prompted at times to take Doe’s call, Child “did not
desire to take [Doe’s] call and he did not answer the phone when it was presented to him,” and
Child knew how to call Doe but had not asked to do so. After Mother began the process of filing
a formal child support case, Doe attempted to call much more frequently. In May 2023, Mother
and Stepfather stopped taking Doe’s calls. The magistrate court’s findings are supported by
substantial and competent evidence in the record.
Next, Doe argues that the magistrate court stated in a footnote that Doe did not reach out
to Mother with enough advance notice to allow for scheduling. Doe argues that there is no such
evidence in the record. We need not comb the record for support or determine whether the
magistrate court made a reasonable inference from the record, as this statement in the footnote, is
of very little import. The number of in-person visits found by the magistrate court is supported by
the record. To the extent there was occasional difficulties in scheduling, although the magistrate
court noted that Doe believes Mother is to blame for his attenuated relationship with Child, Doe
has not pointed to specific instances of impairment that materially affected his ability to exercise
visitation and overall number of visits. Ultimately, the magistrate court found that Doe simply did
not make the effort necessary to have a meaningful parent-child relationship.
Finally, Doe asserts that the magistrate court overlooked the substantial evidence of his
logistical and financial difficulties in travelling across the state for visits. This claim is belied by
the magistrate court finding that “[Doe’s] move to Idaho Falls affected his ability to exercise in-
person visitation with [Child] due to the distance and the fact that he did not have a reliable
vehicle.” The magistrate court noted that Mother and/or her parents assisted with transportation
for visits to occur. The magistrate court concluded that “[Doe] could have done more to maintain

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regular physical contact with [Child], including planning more than one visitation per year,
discussing (ahead of time) a specific parenting plan with [Mother] or seeking a court ordered
custody schedule1 and/or coming to Nampa to see [Child].” The magistrate court concluded that
“ultimately, [Doe] was passive in his approach to seeing [Child],” and “[Doe] relied on others to
make the visits happen and appeared content with the informality of things.” Further the magistrate
court concluded that telephone calls were not enough to sustain a parental relationship.
3. Medical care, educational care, or extracurricular activities
Regarding participation in Child’s medical care, educational care, or extracurricular
activities, the magistrate court found that Doe relied exclusively on Mother to provide for Child in
these areas. After Mother began the process of filing a formal case to seek child support (although
never completed) in the fall of 2021, Doe began mentioning Child’s medical and educational care
in text messages. Doe stated in a text message: “If I’m going to be paying it I want more access
to seeing [Child] and knowing what school he goes[to] or who is doctor [and] all that stuff is [sic].”
The magistrate court found that “[Doe] simply did not try to be involved in [Child’s] education,
medical care or extracurricular activities aside from relying on [Mother] for information.”
Doe does not contend that he provided or participated in Child’s medical care, education,
or extracurricular activities. Doe relied exclusively on Mother and Stepfather for these functions
and commitments. As noted, neglect can be found when a parent simply relies on others, including,
as in this case, the other parent to provide for the needs of a child.
4. Financial contributions
The magistrate court noted that there is no dispute that Doe never paid any regular amount
of support for Child. The magistrate court found that Doe had only paid approximately $300 to
Mother since the time of their separation in 2016, although noted that Doe said it could have been
$700. After Mother began the process of initiating a formal support case, Doe asked to continue
on an informal basis of $150 per month, for which he was willing to relinquish custody. Mother
did not believe Doe would pay and did not agree. Doe did not voluntarily pay any amount. The
magistrate court noted that at trial Doe testified he knew he should have paid child support, but

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“If the parent must secure visitation through the courts, then the failure to pursue such
avenue indicates a willful failure to maintain a normal parental relationship.” In re Doe, (2013-
14), 155 Idaho 505, 508, 314 P.3d 187, 190 (2013).

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Mother never asked for it and, up to the point of the initiation of the support case, “it never crossed”
his mind.
On appeal, Doe contents that he “had good cause for failing to financially support [Child].”
Doe recognizes that the magistrate court found he had paid roughly $300 but “did not seem to
recognize the additional monies both parties agreed [Doe] paid toward gas when Mother
transported [Child] to Idaho Falls.” On this point, Doe neither quantifies the “monies” paid toward
gas nor seriously claims that it constitutes support for Child. Doe asserts that the magistrate court
“failed to recognize the school supplies and gifts [Doe] supplied for the child.” This ignores that
the magistrate court found that Doe provided Christmas and birthday gifts between the years 2017
and 2019 and two backpacks and a coat during that period.
Doe further points out the magistrate court noted his testimony that Mother never asked for
support and it never crossed his mind and, in addition, that the magistrate court found he was able-
bodied and could financially support Child. But, Doe argues, “What the magistrate did not note
was father’s ability to pay relative to his income and expenses.” However, the magistrate court
noted that Doe paid rent to his mother, which the testimony described as $150 per month. Doe
cites to no other evidence that he provided the magistrate court of his expenses. As to income, the
magistrate court specifically found that Doe earns $15 per hour up to 32 hours per week, with
monthly income of approximately $1,600. Doe does not challenge the accuracy of these findings
or identify other expenses from which to otherwise calculate his ability to pay. While it is not the
only factor, a court is permitted to consider a parent’s failure to pay child support when
determining whether termination is appropriate based on neglect. Doe, 162 Idaho at 659, 402 P.3d
at 612. The magistrate court’s conclusion that Doe had the ability to pay is supported by substantial
and competent evidence in the record.
The magistrate court’s findings of fact as to neglect are supported by substantial and
competent evidence in the record. Clear and convincing evidence supports the magistrate court’s
conclusion that Doe neglected Child.
B. Best Interests
Once a statutory ground for termination has been established, the trial court must next
determine whether it is in the best interests of the child to terminate the parent-child relationship.
In re Aragon, 120 Idaho at 611, 818 P.2d at 315. When determining whether termination is in the
child’s best interests, the trial court may consider the parent’s history with substance abuse, the

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stability and permanency of the home, the unemployment of the parent, the financial contribution
of the parent to the child’s care after the child is placed in protective custody, the improvement of
the child while in foster care, the parent’s efforts to improve his or her situation, and the parent’s
continuing problems with the law. In re Doe, 159 Idaho 192, 198, 358 P.3d 77, 83 (2015); In re
Doe, 156 Idaho 103, 111, 320 P.3d 1262, 1270 (2014). A finding that it is in the best interests of
the child to terminate parental rights must still be made upon objective grounds. In re Doe, 152
Idaho 953, 956-57, 277 P.3d 400, 403-04 (Ct. App. 2012).
In Matter of Doe, a private termination case brought by guardians, the Court stated:
The best interests analysis is an expansive analysis with “no set list of
factors a court must consider.” In re Doe (2015-03), 159 Idaho 192, [198], 358
P.3d 77, 83 (2015). Nonetheless, this Court has articulated numerous factors that a
trial court may consider, including a “parent’s history with substance abuse,
whether the parent has provided financial support, the child’s relationship with
those currently caring for him or her and whether the child has improved under that
care, the child’s need for stability and certainty, and the parent’s
incarceration.” Id. Other factors include:
the parent’s ability to change his or her conduct to assume parental
responsibilities, whether there is a good relationship between the
child and parent, whether the child has improved while in the
parent’s care, whether the child’s needs are being met, and the
parent’s ability to provide stability and certainty. Idaho Dep’t of
Health & Welfare v. Doe I (2017-21), 163 Idaho 83, 89, 408 P.3d
81, 87 (2017).
Matter of Doe, 164 Idaho at 516, 432 P.3d at 65.
The magistrate court found that Child’s relationship with Doe has been diminished by
Doe’s absence from Child’s life. Doe failed to seize upon the opportunity to build his relationship
with Child and be present and supportive in Child’s life both physically and financially. The
magistrate court stated that Doe demonstrated an inability to prioritize Child’s needs over his own.
As a result, Child does not look to Doe for care and support. The magistrate court noted that the
best interests standard takes into consideration the reality that children need “stability and
certainty.”
In its findings, the magistrate court noted that Child is nine years old and resides with
Mother and Stepfather who has been in Child’s life since 2017. Stepfather fulfills a parental role
to Child, and Child calls Stepfather “dad.” Mother and Stepfather are able to meet the physical,
financial, emotional, medical, and educational needs of Child. In its best interests analysis, after
determining that Doe had not provided for Child, the magistrate court reiterated these findings.

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The magistrate court further noted that Child desires to change his name to Stepfather’s last name
and that Child’s well-being has improved since Stepfather came into his life. Further the
magistrate court stated that Child feels stable and secure and deserves normalcy, stability, and the
support of parents who are present, ready, willing, and able to promote Child’s needs and well-
being.
Doe makes two arguments on appeal in regard to best interests. First, he points to evidence
of his and his family’s relationship with Child. Doe argues that Child generally enjoyed their visits
and conversation without Child showing regressive behavior. Doe recounts testimony that during
these visits they built forts, drew pictures, and had pizza. During telephone conversations they
talked about hobbies and video games. He argues that Child also had a good relationship with his
extended family. Doe’s aunt and mother testified at trial. As to the one-week-per-year visits
between 2017 and 2019, the magistrate court recognized that “the visits went well, and [Child] had
a good time.” The magistrate court stated that Doe acknowledged that his relationship with Child
existed primarily through their telephone calls. The magistrate court also noted Doe’s expression
of love for Child but stated that such expression has not fulfilled Child’s need for attentive care
and support, which Doe has not provided. As to this argument, Doe essentially asks this Court to
reweigh the evidence. It is well established that appellate courts in Idaho do not reweigh evidence.
Idaho Dep’t of Health & Welfare v. Doe (2022-22), 171 Idaho 277, 282, 519 P.3d 1217, 1222
(2022).
Second, Doe cites to In re Doe, 157 Idaho 14, 17, 333 P.3d 125, 128 (2014) for the
proposition that “the decision to terminate a parent’s parental rights cannot be based upon whether
a stepparent would better fulfill parental responsibilities than the biological parent.” Doe asserts
that Mother suggested at trial that stepfather would be a better father. In addition, Doe argues that
it appears the magistrate court endorsed this argument by finding that Stepfather “fulfilled the
father role to [Child] and had an ‘unbreakable’ bond to Child. Stepfather has supported [Child] in
every way. [Child] calls [Stepfather] ‘dad’ and desires to change his last name.”
As noted, the Doe Court held that the issue is not whether the natural parent or the
stepparent would better discharge parental responsibilities.2 Nonetheless, the Court stated that the

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In Doe, the magistrate court noted that most of the evidence presented went to such factors
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magistrate court’s evaluation of best interests of the children “includes their physical, mental, and
emotional well-being with all parties involved, stepparent and biological parents.” Id. In addition,
the magistrate court recognized that children can be negatively impacted when a parent fails to
maintain a normal parental relationship with them. Id. The Doe Court also stated that:
Although there is no requirement that a child suffer harm before the parent’s
parental rights can be terminated, the lack of any evidence showing that termination
of a parent’s parental rights is necessary to prevent harm to the children is a factor
that the trial court can consider when deciding whether termination of a parent’s
parental rights is in a child’s best interests.
Id.3
The Doe Court upheld the magistrate court’s determination that the mother had failed to
demonstrate that termination of the father’s parental rights would be in the best interests of the
children. Id. at 18, 333 P.3d at 129. The magistrate court in Doe noted that father believed that
some of his failure to physically visit with the children might have been a result of his poor
financial condition, his incarceration, and mother’s unwillingness to allow him to be alone with
the children and that father committed to re-establishing a relationship with the children. Id. The
magistrate court found no emotional or other harm to the children. Id. Consequently, the Court
stated that if father remained the legal parent and stepfather continues to serve as the children’s
daily father figure, the children would lose nothing, assuming father would pay child support and
re-establish a relationship with the children. Id. Finally, the Doe Court rejected mother’s request
that the Court reweigh the evidence and find that termination would be in the children’s best
interests. Id.
In Doe, 162 Idaho at 660, 402 P.3d at 613, the Supreme Court rejected the father’s claim
that magistrate court improperly considered the stepfather’s relationship with the child. The Court

siblings. The magistrate court stated that the evidence expressly related to the factors outlined in
Idaho Code § 32-717, which issues were not properly before the court in a termination proceeding.
In re Doe, 157 Idaho 14, 17, 333 P.3d 125, 128 (2014). The Idaho Supreme Court stated that the
magistrate court was correct; the I.C. § 32-717 factors are for the court to consider when giving
direction for the custody, care, and education of children in a divorce proceeding; and the statute
“has no application to proceedings seeking to terminate a parent’s parental rights.” Id. See Doe
v. Doe (2023-36), ___ Idaho ___, ___, 544 P.3d 148, 154-55 (Ct. App 2024) (I.C. § 32-717 factors
compare the fitness of one parent against the other in custody and support proceedings and are
geared toward a different conclusion than best interests in a termination proceeding).
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In Matter of Doe, 164 Idaho 511, 516, 432 P.3d 60, 65 (2018), the Court made clear that
“this Court never intimated that this factor is a determining factor.”
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noted that a magistrate court is permitted to consider the stability and permanency of a child’s
home, and part of that analysis would naturally include the stepfather’s ability to care for the child.
Id. The Court quoted the magistrate’s determination in that case that it is in the best interests of
child to have a legal father who has the commitment to, the familiarity with, and the affection for
the child that is necessary for a parent to make decision in the child’s best interests, and who has
the legal right to make those decisions. Id.
Here, in the findings of fact, the magistrate court noted Mother testified that at the time of
their separation, Doe was emotionally abusive and threatened to harm himself or Child. Doe was
placed on a mental hold and was hospitalized. Doe moved to Idaho Falls to be closer to his family,
which the magistrate court found affected his ability to exercise in-person visitation with Child.
Doe only had in-person visitation with Child one week per year for the first three years and
thereafter, as described above, no in person visits. As to telephone calls, the magistrate court noted
testimony that Child needed to be prompted to speak with Doe and, on occasion would not answer
when the phone was presented to Child. In regard to Child’s situation, Child lives with Mother
and Stepfather, is in fifth grade, and enjoys reading, spending time outside, playing baseball,
spending time with family, going out to dinner, and having sleepovers. Mother and Stepfather
meet Child’s physical, mental, and emotional well-being. Stepfather is involved in Child’s
educational care, helping with schoolwork, and attending parent-teacher conferences. While the
determination to terminate a parent’s parental rights is not a comparison of whether the parent or
a stepparent can better fulfill parental responsibilities, the magistrate court is not required to ignore
the overall situation of Child’s life while in the care of Mother and Stepfather.
The magistrate court’s decision to terminate Doe’s parental rights is supported by
substantial and competent evidence in the record. Whether a matter has been proved by clear and
convincing evidence is primarily a matter for the trial court. In re Doe, 153 Idaho 258, 263, 281
P.3d 95, 100 (2012). On appeal, the appellate court does not reweigh the evidence to determine if
it was clear and convincing. Dep’t. of Health and Welfare v. Doe, 149 Idaho 207, 210, 233 P.3d
138, 141 (2010). We affirm the termination of Doe’s parental rights.
C. Attorney Fees
Mother has requested attorney fees under Idaho Appellate Rule 41 believing that Doe’s
appeal has been brought frivolously. As a fundamental right is implicated, we decline to award
attorney fees. See Matter of Doe, 164 Idaho at 518, 432 P.3d at 67.

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IV.
CONCLUSION
The magistrate court’s judgment terminating Doe’s parental rights is affirmed.
Judge HUSKEY CONCURS.
Judge LORELLO, SPECIALLY CONCURRING.
I concur in the majority opinion because it is consistent with the Idaho Supreme Court’s
decision in Doe v. Doe I (2017-15), 162 Idaho 653, 402 P.3d 1106 (2017), and we are constrained
by that Court’s precedent.4 However, I write separately to highlight two related points: (1) what
I perceive as flaws in having a single statutory scheme that applies to termination of parental rights
regardless of whether the petition to terminate is initiated by the Idaho Department of Health and
Welfare or by a private party; and (2) the consequences of having this statutory scheme apply to
alleged neglect in a private termination case. The statutory scheme applicable to termination of
parental rights is codified in Title 16, Chapter 20 of the Idaho Code. While this statutory scheme
aligns well with the policies and procedures underlying child protection cases initiated by the
Department, it can be an imperfect fit, at best, in termination cases initiated by private parties like
the petition in this case.5
Termination adjudications involve the “awesome authority” to “‘destroy permanently all
legal recognition of the parental relationship.’” M.L.B. v. S.L.J., 519 U.S. 102, 127-28 (1996),
quoting Rivera v. Minnich, 483 U.S. 574, 580 (1987). A parent whose rights have been terminated
has no standing to seek involvement in the child’s life. See Santosky v. Kramer, 455 U.S. 745,
749, 759 (1982); see also I.C. § 16-2011 (providing that “an order terminating the parent and child
relationship shall divest the parent and the child of all legal rights, privileges, duties, and
obligations, including rights of inheritance, with respect to each other”). The Idaho Legislature

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There are some factual differences between Doe I and this case, but there are sufficient
similarities (particularly when coupled with the standard of review) that the magistrate court’s
decision in this case cannot be characterized as erroneous.
5
Idaho Code Section 16-2004(a) authorizes “[e]ither parent” to file a petition to terminate
the parental rights “with respect to the other parent.” This is somewhat confusing because the
definition of “parent” includes: (a) the birth mother or adoptive mother; (b) the adoptive father;
(c) the biological father of a child conceived or born during the father’s marriage to the birth
mother; and (d) the unmarried biological father whose consent to an adoption of the child is
required pursuant to I.C. § 16-1504. I.C. § 16-2002(11). Despite the multiple definitions of parent,
I.C. § 16-2004(a) appears to contemplate a circumstance involving two readily identifiable parents,
such as a biological mother and a biological father.
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has articulated two purposes underlying the statutory authorization for this permanent deprivation:
(1) to “[p]rovide for voluntary and involuntary severance of the parent and child relationship and
for substitution of parental care and supervision by judicial process” in order to “safeguard[] the
rights and interests of all parties concerned and promoting their welfare and that of the state of
Idaho,” and (2) to “[p]rovide permanency for children who are under the jurisdiction of the court
through the child protective act” in cases “where the court has found the existence of aggravated
circumstances or that reasonable efforts to return the child to his or her home have failed.” I.C.
§ 16-2001(1). The second purpose is not relevant to the private termination action in this case
because Child was never the subject of a child protection case. Thus, assuming the Legislature
intended a single purpose would suffice before terminating a parent’s rights despite its use of the
conjunctive “and” in I.C. § 16-2001(1), that single purpose must inform the interpretation and
application of the remaining provisions in Title 16, Chapter 20. See I.C. § 16-2015 (requiring that
the termination of parental rights “act shall be liberally construed to accomplish the purposes
herein set forth”).
Idaho Code Section 16-2005 sets forth the conditions under which termination may be
granted. This provision requires that termination be in the best interests of the child and that one
or more of the statutorily enumerated conditions exists. I.C. § 16-2005(1).6 The termination
condition found by the magistrate court was based on neglect as defined in I.C. § 16-1602(31)(a).
That statute provides that neglect includes a child “[w]ho is without proper parental care and
control, or subsistence, medical or other care or control necessary for his well-being because of
the conduct or omission of his parents, guardian or other custodian or their neglect or refusal to
provide them.” I.C. § 16-1602(31)(a). If this definition of neglect is construed liberally against
the backdrop of the applicable purpose from I.C. § 16-2001(1)(a), i.e., to safeguard the rights and
interests of all parties concerned and to promote their welfare and the welfare of the state of Idaho,
a parent’s rights should not be terminated unless the child is without parental care because of the
conduct or omission of the parent whose rights are being terminated. I recognize that Idaho
appellate courts have rejected the argument that a child is not neglected for purposes of I.C.

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Idaho Code Section 16-2005(2) includes additional conditions, generally involving
criminal conduct, in which a parent’s rights may be terminated and there is a rebuttable
presumption that termination is the child’s best interests.

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§ 16-1602(31)(a) so long as someone is meeting the child’s basic needs. See Idaho Dep’t of Health
&Welfare v. Doe (2020-37), 168 Idaho 74, 79, 479 P.3d 467, 472 (Ct. App. 2021) (rejecting
argument that child was not neglected as defined in I.C. § 16-1602(31)(a) because the Department
and foster parents provided for the child’s needs); Thompson v. Thompson, 110 Idaho 93, 96, 714
P.2d 62, 65 (Ct. App. 1986) (rejecting argument that mother did not neglect child because she
relied on the “generosity of others” who did care for the child).7 I agree with this proposition when
the “someone” is not one of the child’s parents, which was the factual scenario in Doe (2020-15)
and Thompson. But the calculus is different when the “someone” is one of the child’s parents and
that parent is trying to terminate the rights of the child’s other parent based on neglect, as in this
case. In that circumstance, the definition of neglect in I.C. § 16-1602(31)(a) does not clearly apply,
particularly when viewed with regard for the purpose set forth in I.C. § 16-2001(1)(a). It seems a
slippery slope to permanently sever a parent’s relationship to his or her child relying on the broad
definition of neglect in I.C. § 16-1602(31)(a) in a variety of circumstances that would not typically
be considered neglectful. The facts of this case illustrate the point.
The magistrate court first concluded that the father (Doe) neglected Child because Doe has
“not played an active role in [Child’s] life since [Doe] moved to Idaho Falls in 2017” and Doe
“has not had personal contact with [Child] for approximately five years.” Elaborating on this
finding, the magistrate court explained:
[Doe] did not maintain regular personal contact with [Child]. [Doe] made the
decision to move to Idaho Falls and distance himself from [Child]. Although [Doe]
exercised in-person visitation with [Child] for approximately one week per year
during the first few years after moving to Idaho Falls, [Doe’s] overall efforts to
maintain physical contact with [Child] were slight and waned with time.[8] The

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It is worth noting that, although Thompson was a private termination case, there was
judicial oversight prior to termination of the biological mother’s parental rights following a motion
to appoint a guardian ad litem for the child. Thompson, 110 Idaho at 94, 714 P.2d at 63. In the
context of those proceedings, the court ordered that the child’s biological mother be permitted to
have unsupervised visitation with the child. Id.
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From 2017-2019, Child would visit Doe for a week each year in Idaho Falls. The visits
went well, and Child had a good time. However, in 2020, during COVID-19, the parties agreed
not to exchange Child. In 2021, there were plans to have Child visit Doe for Halloween, but
Mother did not permit the visit due to Child’s school schedule. Child was then scheduled to visit
Doe for the week of Thanksgiving, but Doe asked to reschedule to New Year’s. Around this time,
Stepfather took over communication with Doe to alleviate Mother’s trauma and inability to enforce
boundaries with Doe. Doe did not have an in-person visitation with Child in 2022 or 2023.

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record does not substantiate that [Mother] prevented [Doe] from physical contact
with [Child]. For her part, [Mother] cooperated and communicated with [Doe].
[Doe’s] lack of planning, disinterest and casual, somewhat disorganized, approach
coupled with the distance from [Child], affected [Doe’s] in-person visitation the
most. [Doe] desired visitation to occur at his convenience without forethought
about [Child’s] needs or activities in the Treasure Valley. [Doe] could have done
more to maintain regular physical contact with [Child], including planning more
than one visitation per year, discussing (ahead of time) a specific parenting plan
with [Mother] or seeking a court ordered custody schedule and/or coming to Nampa
to see [Child]. Ultimately, [Doe] was passive in his approach to seeing [Child]. He
relied on others to make the visits happen and appeared content with the informality
of things. [Doe’s] own statements throughout the record suggest that he was
satisfied with a relationship with [Child] that existed through telephone calls, which
were not enough to sustain a parental relationship with [Child].
A parent’s rights should not be terminated as a result of moving to another town (or state
or country) to be closer to immediate family or to live with and care for a family member (as in
Doe’s case), to take advantage of a job opportunity, or as a result of deployment. A parent’s rights
should not be terminated simply because the parent “could have done more to maintain regular
physical contact” with a child. Many parents could do “more” to have “regular physical contact”
with a child, including parents living in the same city or even in the same home.9 Nor should a
parent’s rights be subject to termination because there is no court-ordered custody schedule or
where a parent is “passive” in his or her approach to seeing a child. There are legitimate reasons
why parents may not have a court-ordered custody schedule, including challenges accessing the
courts, or, as in this case, the parents were never married and, therefore, did not need to seek
judicial dissolution of their relationship. In my view, the lack of a court-ordered custody schedule
should not be given any weight in a decision to terminate a parent’s rights. And, although not
factually pertinent to this case, a parent’s rights should not be subject to termination in
circumstances where a parent “was passive” despite a court-ordered custody schedule.

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Doe did have telephone contact with Child. In fact, Doe testified that, since 2021, he called
about one hundred times in an effort to speak with Child. The magistrate court found the frequency
of the phone calls “ebbed and flowed” and that there were times that Mother would ignore Doe’s
calls if Child was “engaged in other activities or at bedtime.” Moreover, Mother stopped taking
Doe’s calls altogether in 2023 and did not tell Child that Doe was trying to contact him--a fact that
is difficult to reconcile with the finding that Mother never thwarted visitation. The magistrate
court also found that Child sometimes did not want to take Doe’s calls, although the magistrate
court made no findings as to the reasons why. Notably, there was no finding that Child did not
want to take the calls because he did not like Doe. It is hardly unusual that a child does not want
to talk on the phone with a parent.
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Noncustodial parents in divorce cases have varying degrees of contact with their children for many
reasons that do not warrant termination of their parental rights. The foregoing circumstances do
not leave the child without proper parental care or control, subsistence, medical or other care
necessary for the child’s well-being.
The second reason the magistrate court identified as a basis for finding neglect was that
Doe did not engage in Child’s “medical or educational care and did not participate in [Child’s]
extra-curricular activities” even though Doe was invited to attend those activities. The magistrate
court found that Doe “could have taken a more active approach” rather than relying on Mother “to
provide him information related to [Child’s] medical and educational care and extra-curricular
activities.” According to the magistrate court, Doe could have sought to obtain information from
Child’s school or service providers rather than asking Mother. The magistrate court made no
related factual findings regarding Child’s medical or educational needs. Nor did the magistrate
court make any factual findings regarding the logistics of Child’s extracurricular activities,
including when the extracurricular activities were or in what way Doe was neglectful for failing to
make the approximate four-hour drive from Idaho Falls to Nampa to attend such activities. Neither
the magistrate court’s finding of neglect on this basis nor its factual findings related thereto
elucidate how Doe’s alleged failures with respect to medical care, education, or extracurricular
activities constituted neglect such that termination of his rights was necessary to Child’s well-being
because of Doe’s failures.
The third reason the magistrate court identified as a basis for finding neglect was that Doe
had “not provided [Child] with any significant physical or financial support.” The related factual
findings include: (1) at the time Mother and Doe separated, Doe “was not financially stable” and
Mother agreed that Doe “would not immediately pay child support”; (2) “[s]ince the separation,
[Doe] has only paid approximately $300.00 to help [Mother] with rent at or around the time of the
parties’ separation”; and (3) Mother “initiated a formal child support case seeking support” after
which Doe sent Mother text messages insistent that he could not afford to pay child support and
asking if he could pay “informal” support with Mother having “final say on stuff” and then see if
Stepfather could still adopt. Mother rejected Doe’s request for informal payments and initiated
proceedings to terminate Doe’s parental rights rather than pursue court-ordered child support.
There was no evidence that the lack of child support from Doe, paid informally or otherwise,
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forego child support and her abandonment of her formal petition for child support suggests the
opposite. If child support payments were necessary to Child’s well-being, it seems Mother would
have maintained her petition for child support or filed the petition for termination sooner.10
Furthermore, it is unclear that Doe’s failure to pay child support requires termination in order to
safeguard the rights and interests of Doe or Child or in order to promote their welfare or the welfare
of the state of Idaho. See I.C. § 16-2001(1)(a).11
Doe’s neglect of Child in this case stands in stark contrast to neglect found in most other
cases. See, e.g., Idaho Dep’t of Health & Welfare v. Doe (2022-22), 171 Idaho 277, 284, 519 P.3d
1217, 1224 (2022) (affirming the termination of mother’s parental rights based on neglect due to
mother’s failure to comply with the court’s orders and case plan that outlined concerns about
mother’s use of drugs and alcohol; mother failed to complete out-patient treatment and comply
with drug testing requirements in her case plan, and mother failed to show the ability to remain
free from substances including alcohol and marijuana); Idaho Dep’t of Health & Welfare v. Doe
(2019-16), 166 Idaho 57, 66, 454 P.3d 1140, 1149 (2019) (affirming the termination of the father’s
parental rights based on neglect because the father used methamphetamine, had violent outburst
against the mother in front of one of their children, and had multiple felony charges at the time the
time of termination trial); Idaho Dep’t of Health & Welfare v. Doe, 164 Idaho 849, 854, 436 P.3d
670, 675 (2019) (affirming the termination of mother’s parental rights because mother had a long
history of addiction to methamphetamine and did not start treatment until nearly a year after child
was placed in foster care and mother lived with father knowing his constant marijuana use would

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In determining the amount of child support to be paid, the court may consider the financial
resources of the child; the financial resources, needs, and obligations of both the custodial and
noncustodial parent parents; the physical and emotional condition and needs of the child and his
or her educational needs; the availability of medical coverage for the child at a reasonable cost;
and the tax benefit recognized by the party claiming the federal child dependency exemption. I.C.
§ 32-706(1). A child support calculation also takes into account the time the child spends with
each parent, I.R.F.L.P. 126(J)(5), which sometimes incentivizes a parent to request more custodial
time. To the extent Mother had concerns about Doe’s willingness to make the required payments,
child support obligations are enforced by income withholding. See I.C. § 32-706(3).
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Failure to pay child support cannot be the only factor in support of a decision terminating
a parent’s rights, but a court may consider it as a factor. Doe (2017-15), 162 Idaho at 659, 402
P.3d at 1112. The magistrate court in this case found that Doe “did not falter in his parental
obligations towards [Child] in any one particular way, but many.”
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preclude reunification). Nevertheless, in light of the standard of review and the Idaho Supreme
Court’s opinion in Doe (2017-15), 162 Idaho 653, 402 P.3d 1106, I am constrained to concur.

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